Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said President Donald Trump had no involvement with Jeffrey Epstein’s criminal conduct and permanently cut ties with Epstein after learning of inappropriate behavior at Mar-a-Lago nearly two decades ago.

Giuliani addressed the matter by recounting a specific incident from 2007, describing what he said was Trump’s immediate and decisive response after concerns were brought to his attention by employees at the Florida property.

“I can tell you, beyond any doubt, that there is no connection between Donald Trump and the criminal part of Jeffrey Epstein,” Giuliani said.

“In fact, there’s very little connection, except when they were very young, and story of how he threw him out is actually even tougher than he remembers.”

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According to Giuliani, the incident occurred when two women who worked at the Mar-a-Lago massage facility raised concerns about Epstein’s conduct. One of the women, Giuliani said, was hesitant to approach Trump directly because she was frightened by Epstein’s behavior.

“I mean, he basically did it. Two of the women from the from the massage place at Mar a Lago came to him. Now this is way back in 06-07, and one of them was afraid to come to him because Epstein had been bothering her. So she went to the person in charge,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani said the matter was then brought directly to Trump, who questioned both women about the seriousness of the situation.

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“And she and the President charged him. Well, you have no idea what Mr. Trump is like. And the lady was frightened. And they go up and she tells him, Mr. Epstein is being inappropriate with me, very he said. And he looks at the older woman, he says, Is it really bad? And she said, yeah, yeah, it’s really bad. It’s not sex, but it’s really bad,” Giuliani said.

According to Giuliani, Trump responded immediately by contacting Epstein and issuing a permanent ban.

“Okay, let me show you what I’m going to do. Calls up Epstein. Doesn’t get him on the phone. He leaves a message. And he said, This is Donald Trump, and probably calls him by his last name, Epstein. Come by the golf course later today. All your stuff is there, and don’t you ever show your your face at the golf course or Mar-a-Lago again. Boom. Hangs up,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani said Trump then instructed his security team to remove Epstein entirely from the property and ensure he never returned.

“Then he calls up his director of security, puts him on the on the phone, and says, This guy’s out. Collect all his stuff. I don’t think we have any lockers at Mar-a-Lago. If he does, get rid of everything he’s got, but go over to the golf course, he has a locker there,” Giuliani said.

Trump, Giuliani added, ordered security to return all of Epstein’s belongings in full to avoid any future disputes, while also ensuring Epstein was barred permanently.

“Take everything, put it in it, make it nice, so he can’t complain. Give him everything. If there’s any doubt, give it to him. Then put his picture up and don’t let him in. Ever again, ever,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani said that incident marked the end of any relationship between Trump and Epstein.

“That’s the last time he really ever thought about Epstein until this came up,” Giuliani said.

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