Vice President JD Vance and Second Lady Usha Vance are sharing new details about the personal conversations that influenced their decision to welcome a fourth child, including the impact of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s death in September 2025, as reported by Fox News.

The couple discussed the subject during an appearance on CBS News Sunday Morning while promoting Vance’s upcoming book, “Communion: Finding My Way Back to Faith,” which is scheduled for release on June 16.

According to Vance’s book, one of the most memorable moments following Kirk’s death involved a conversation with Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.

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Vance wrote that he sat with Erika on the day of her husband’s assassination and recalled her telling Usha that she “regretted having only two kids with Charlie.”

The conversation became a significant moment for the Vance family as they continued discussing whether to have another child.

In the book, Vance wrote that while he and Usha had previously talked about expanding their family, “something changed” for both of them after Charlie Kirk’s death.

During the CBS interview, Usha Vance explained how the experience affected her husband’s thinking.

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“I think it really heightened JD's sense that he'd been talking about this for a while, this sense that there was this possibility of having another kid whom he could love as much as the three that we had,” Usha said.

She continued, “It really did crystallize for [him], that sense that if you could have that other child, then you would have nothing to regret. And if we couldn't have that other child, then we were very happy with the children that we had. So it was very powerful what she said about her own family and certainly very moving to both of us.”

The Vances publicly announced in January that they were expecting their fourth child. The announcement was shared on social media, where the couple revealed they were expecting a son. The baby is due in July.

JD and Usha Vance are already parents to three children: Ewan, Vivek, and Mirabel.

While discussing the family's decision, Usha emphasized that the conversation following Kirk’s death was not the sole reason they chose to have another child. She said the couple had already been considering the possibility before that moment.

“I think I had already started to open my mind to the possibility. I wouldn’t say this was for me in any way the decisive factor, but it came in the middle of a conversation that we were already having,” Usha said.

The interview also focused on Vance’s new book, which chronicles his return to religious faith and his conversion to Catholicism.

In a separate interview on “Jesse Watters Primetime,” Vance described the book as the story of his “long and winding road” toward faith after a period in his life when he felt he had “lost it” as a young man.

The memoir combines personal reflections on faith, family, and public life, while also recounting events that shaped some of the most important decisions facing the vice president and his family.

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