New federal data shows more than 4 million Americans have left the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) during the first year of President Donald Trump’s second term, according to figures discussed by Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins in an interview with Fox Business host Cheryl Casone.

Casone introduced the data by pointing to the scale of the decline.

“Secretary, you've got some new news to break with us this morning,” she said. She noted “federal data revealing 4 million fewer Americans are receiving SNAP benefits in the first year of this President's second term.”

She added that the numbers came directly from Rollins’ department and highlighted that enrollment had fallen by 4.2 million people following the passage of a major legislative package last July.

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“What can you tell us?” Casone asked.

Rollins described the figures as significant and tied them to broader policy goals.

“Well, it is a really big piece of news,” she said, adding that while global events dominate headlines, attention is also focused “back here and in the homeland” on implementing the administration’s agenda.

She said the effort is aimed at fulfilling what she described as the president’s promise “to return the power to the people to drain the swamp.”

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Rollins contrasted current numbers with prior growth in the program, stating that under former President Joe Biden, “the SNAP program, the Food Stamp Program, grew by more than 40%.”

She added, “I believe they were buying votes for the election, putting as many people on as they could.”

Rollins said one of her first actions after taking office was outreach to state leaders.

“Within the first hour of me being sworn in last February, we sent a letter to every governor in the country,” she said, describing the request to “partner with us” and ensure the program serves those in need.

She then cited the updated totals.

“As of just a couple of days ago, we now have moved 4.3 million Americans off of the food stamp program,” Rollins said.

She attributed the reduction to multiple factors, stating, “A lot of that is fraud.”

She added, “A lot of it is people taking the program that shouldn't have been,” and also pointed to “just a better economy.”

Rollins highlighted economic indicators, saying, “We've had wage growth that has outpaced inflation for the first time since early 2021.” She described the trend as evidence that “people don't need food stamps.”

She framed the goal of the policy approach as shifting participants into employment.

“That's the goal of these government programs,” Rollins said. “Let's move people from welfare to work.” She added, “The dignity of work is a real thing in this country.”

The discussion also turned to cooperation between federal and state governments on SNAP data.

“But here's the shocking thing, Cheryl,” Rollins said, noting that participation from states has been uneven. She said that “just one red state” provided recent data and added that “the red states are the only ones who have been partnering with us.”

Rollins said that in the past, “no data was shared,” adding, “We had no idea where the taxpayer dollars were spent.”

She described findings from the data that was provided.

“The recent dump of data, we found SNAP recipients had more than 2000 Tesla owners,” Rollins said. She added there were “200 Alpha Romeo owners” and “more than 144 that were receiving food stamps were driving Porsches.”

She said the information reflects increased oversight, stating, “we before, we had no accountability on any of these programs.” Rollins added, “We now are requiring accountability.”

She also said that some states have resisted the effort, noting, “The blue states are suing us.” She added, “They don't want to share the data.”

Rollins said the contrast between participating and non-participating states raises additional questions.

“And can you imagine this was a red state where there is actually some taxpayer accountability?” she said. She continued, “Imagine what's happening in the blue states.”

Casone responded to the examples cited by Rollins, focusing on the reaction such findings may generate.

“Secretary, those examples you're giving are egregious,” Casone said. She added that this type of information “is what makes Americans so angry about fraud and abuse.”

“That is shocking to me,” Casone said, adding, “and not much shocks me anymore.”

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